Things That Shaped My Video Journey

My video journey has been a series of stepping stones. These stones, a little like in an Indiana Jones flick, have been treacherous, occasionally disappeared or proven to be illusionary even, but they needed to be taken for better or worse.

The big ones, the ones that made a real difference were few and memorable.

Resolving to learn Resolve.

There were a few editing choices in front of me, but the free licence for a the bulk of DaVinci Resolve helped me make up my mind, even though I was aware of the steep learning curve, because even if I had to pay for it totally, it was still the right choice for my journey.

My copy of Studio Resolve came probably the way most do, through a purchase, so I either got it free with my Speed Editor Panel or the other way, but either way, both were worth buying, so one was free.

Asking the question “is there another way”.

Bogged down in a world of follow the leader, a world of Lut’s, Log and hazy grading, I kept thinking along the lines of, “is there another way”, “what do professional colourist do” and “why is what I like, not what other do” which lead me to find some more aware and professional voices coming down from professional training, not up from the bottom like me.

Cullen Kelly has been the main one, chosen as much to “pick a ride” as any other motivation, but so far his channel has answered all of my questions with clear, logical and efficient work strategies with a feeling of constant evolution and “my Resolve is mine”.

Going RAW.

I am a stills shooter, I shoot RAW, I always have (in digital anyway). In video I felt a slave to “the dark side” of Luts, pseudo-RAW codecs, doing things a very technical way, like those before told me said I should.

When I bought my first 12G BMVA recorder, it literally changed my video perceptions. I was suddenly in a world of genuine comfort, a world of power grades and controlled processing. Shooting became easier, even lighter on my system as B-Raw 8:1 is actually a lighter load on a system than ProRes/422/HQ and it edits more easily (RAW shoots bigger but edits lighter as their is no or little compression to unpack).

I can now deal with reasonable errors in white balance and exposure, get smoother and cleaner footage, better colours, more features and cleaner in-out processes. I have a base RAW Node tree that I apply (thanks to Mr Kelly, but of my own making) and wallah, clean, sharp and clear footage.

Video that can produce good enough quality for stills with a stills-like work flow, fine by me.

Embracing cinema glass.

There is no burning need to buy cine glass. Panasonic S-primes and many other stills lenses are perfectly fine for video, that’s the main reason why Black Mist and similar filters are so popular, but cine glass, even cheap cine glass changes a few things.

You get good at manual focus and its better implementation, you rely less on filters and more on the lens itself, you learn to use a prime lens over a zoom, you get big forearms (they are heavy) you take the whole thing more seriously and sometimes (especially with anamorphic lenses), you get more “cinematic” results.

Like a lot of things, it is easy to dismiss a particular method when you don’t have the right tools.

The Vespid and Hope cine and Sirui anamorphic lenses have all been genuine quality lifters for me, not because they are necessarily sharper than some stills lenses, but because they are designed with a more wholistic approach to image capture.

Moving stock requires more than just high sharpness and contrast with acceptable Bokeh. It requires the ability to render contrast and sharpness harmoniously to suit the medium, to be able to transition focus without breathing or other strange behaviour, to look good while shooting, not relying on post processing salvation. After using real cine glass, I have become aware of just how specialised to the point of being flawed in many ways, some otherwise good glass can be.

Power to the people.

Finally going into V-mount and NP batteries to remove the 1hr limit for recording. Not much point having a camera with no recording limits, if other things limit you. The 1hr-ish cut off from the internal battery (highly conditional) is so very often just too short for many projects or at least tenuous enough to distract.

For example, the other night I shot a 75 minute performance that I had t shoot stills for on two unattended cams, shooting 4 or 6k out to the BMVA’s one on a V-mount (powering the camera as well), the other on an NP-970 to the BMVA, the camera running on its own.

At the end of 75mins continuous recording, I still had 70% left on the V-Mount, 2 out of 4 “dots” on the NP adapter and I can only assume thanks to the NP doing the heavy lifting, the internal camera battery was still on 2 of 4 bars. I had batts and occassional dead spots to change them, but I did not have to.

Holding Firm On Gimbals.

I could have, it would have been a relatively small investment, but I held firm and avoided the gimbal thing. They have their uses, they are a crucial part of man cinematographers arsenal of tricks, but they can also be, especially when starting out a crutch and worse, an addictive habit.

By rejecting them, I am slowly improving my hand held technique (make easier by my choice of Panasonic cameras), or to think of other methods, like the noble tripod, slider or boom.

Many of the best shots in cinematic history were shot on sticks or hand held. Gimbals are only one method of capture and not always the best.

Choosing Panasonic Cameras.

This was a given I guess as MFT was my format of choice and the G9 MkI my first serious video maker, so as soon as I grew in this space, a mix of full frame and MFT cams, with Black Magic video assists as my upgrade of choice, everything made sense. Panasonic tends to give you more of the real stuff quicker and cheaper, like waveform, red frame indicator, Log, 10/422 colour etc in a sub $2000 au camera. AF needed some improving and they did, but even my first cam, the stills hybrid G9 mkI, without optional firmware, could shoot 4k/422/10bit in short bursts. With firmware, it could shoot Log and record out over its full sized HDMI.

Creating a dedicated video work space.

I have been happily working from a pair of M1 Air laptops for the last few years, but for video, especially the crowded work space that is Resolve, they were not cutting it. Speeds were fine, surprisingly so, but not screen size or handling.

I came into a video windfall that paid for a base model M4 Mac Mini, 29” screen, some fast off board storage and a BM Micro Colour and Speed Editor panel. The speed editor in particular was basically free with a copy of Resolve Studio license (basically the same price), and the jog wheel has help immensely.

I do not use all or even most of their options, but the tactile nature of the controls gives added control and connection to the process.

With amble storage, including a small high speed dock accessory, my work flow is not faultless or instant, but I am not clogging up the works with unwanted stills and video work competing for the same space.

There have been other factors that have empowered my journey, but these are the ones that stand out to me, the real and I hate to use this term “game changers”, but they actually have.

The Two Lens, Four Format Kit

I have a 25mm Vespid series 1 lens coming to compliment my 40mm.

Same look, same strengths and weaknesses, same feel and handling and by all accounts, a close match in colour and lens performance, both leaning on the sharper-cleaner end of the range.

My camera options give me a special feature using any adaptable mount lenses, in that I effectively have four lenses from each lens across my formats, so buying the 25 had to be balanced with what the 40mm offered on these formats and what I needed.

A normal wide

25mm (25 on full frame) is the wide angel. Not a crazy wide, just a true wide, something you can use for a natural look, just with a wider coverage, or you can exaggerate it by pushing in, adding angles etc. I looked at wider, but the reality is, apart from extreme sports and action (covered by other options), I have little use for a super wide in this space.

The “un-opinionated” standard

37mm (25 on APS-c crop or Super 35) See below. This is particulalry handy for me right now as I cannot access full frame B-Raw on the S5 at smaller than 6k output, which is just really big, so it is in effect the lens I bought below in that situation and everything below counts.

40mm (40 on full frame) is the “perfect” one lens option, the not compressed, not wide angle distorted, ground zero lens that could, if needed, be the right choice for a one lens only project (you know something little like 1917).

45mm (25mm on 1.8x MFT). The GH5s and BMPCC4k use a larger than normal MFT sensor. This along with dual ISO performance give it near full frame low light performance with all the benefits of MFT format. The 45mm is close enough to the perfect standard, just pushing in to the very last of the neutral compression focal lengths. In reality it is not much different to 40mm, more in the mind than results, so another “one lens” lens, but this one is for the smaller format.

Mild compression standard

50mm (25mm on 2x MFT). The G9II and most other MFT cams turn the 25mm into the nifty fifty, the accepted standard lens, even if it is mathematically or practically not that at all. A little compression helps with interview setups, so the difference between 40 and 50 can be significant.

60mm (40mm on APS-c crop). The 60mm is fully in the mildly compressed portrait range. It is the perfect companion to 40mm , both straddling the normal 50mm. You could make a movie with any of these focal lengths and my kit will allow me to mix 40 + 60, 40 + 50 etc.

The portrait lens

70mm (40mm on 1.8x MFT). The 70mm is a curious lens. It is obviously more compressed than a 50mm or similar, but still very easy to use for most things. The ideal interview lens with a little included background, it can also be ideal for closeups and tight shots.

80mm (40mm on MFT). The longest this kit will give me, unless I crop 4 or 6k down to 2k, the 80mm is starting to get more telephoto looking. The 40mm has already proven itself here, taking some brilliant stills on a G9 Mk1, so I will be using this along with the wide.

Yeah, the sweet spot effect at work.

The four format-two lens kit is not all I have at hand, but if I choose to be consistent, I have all the focal lengths I would consider to be fully usable and within the range of normal looking. Any wider and the wide look takes over. Any longer starts to show also.

Full frame stresses the lens coverage the most, more less slightly soft corners being the price, but it also allows the lens to resolve more easily across the whole frame. Soft corners are irrelevant to me, part of the cinema look and not even a real issue with these lenses anyway.

APS-c crop on a full frame is often derided, but the reality is on Panasonic cameras, there is no inherent quality loss, just a closer look at existing image issues like noise, being a little bigger as the frame is cropped in closer. I will use this Super 35 adjacent format a lot, seeing it as equal partner and the S5 forces it if I want C4k/B-Raw out.

MFT 1.8x is a rarity, only found on a couple of cameras, the GH5s being one of them. With acceptable low light performance thanks to dual ISO and low pixel count, MFT depth of field and the sweet spot advantage exaggerated, the lenses have to resolve at their best as the smaller format uses less glass for more detail.

MFT 2x is the normal MFT crop, doubling the magnification and the same effects as above. The Vespid’s will act like 50 and 80mm lenses respectively, making the G9II the long lens cam, always natural looking with some or more compression. This role will more than most be applied to other glass, for action and movement shots, but it is a real option.

An Example Of Contemplative Videography

I stumbled over this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-4knCZ0EMQ these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOaste4bsC4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xev4ZAMujPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkGh0uHH7lg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V9_UDOzIpM and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TqDIWfymh4 by Guido Pezz, a travel documentarist I assume he would call himself.

Based in Italy, I kept stumbling across his work when researching Black magic cameras and Vespid lenses (separately). One video was even filmed in my home state (An Island off an Island), only hours from where I live.

The elements are;

  • Considered observance, an eye for detail and what defines.

  • Consistent colouring and look, “Nostalgia” Lut same cameras and matched lenses.

  • Voice over with intent and feeling, music to accompany and set the mood.

  • Creative angles, basically photographic frames (each could be lifted as a still).

  • Sublime editing, with minimal gimmick effects, well done when used.

  • Natural light usually or always, if artificial is used, it is subtle and invisible.

  • Basic but solid gear (BM cams, Vespids or Leica R’s), noting flash, good docco gear.

  • Time and patience invested.

The lessons learned are ones that I appreciate being presented.

Less is more when more of the good stuff is exemplified.

Patience, quiet, humility, reverence all play their part.

Go for real and natural first, only add artificial elements when you have to and even then invisible is key.

Effort is rewarded.

A Good Example Of Over Thinking And Resolve In The End

This lens thing has been over the top.

I have been known to spend more money and less time on solving lens issues, but I guess as time moves on, my real need is diminishing, fear of failure and waste is increasing, so these choices are harder to make.

I am also aware, that more than most purchases, this is for me, not clients.

The impulse buy of the 40mm was providential, it opened a door I may never have opened without a push, I now need to enter the room, take stock and finalise the process.

At the end of the day I was after;

A Vespid Mk1 lens to match my windfall 40mm that is a normal lens in APS-C (37) and MFT (45/50) formats and a wide in full frame (25), something that has been simmering for a while. The Panasonic 24 always seemed too dear for what it was going to add to an occasional wide user (compared to my excellent kit 20-60 and 28-70 Sigma anyway).

The Vespid 25mm has been ordered for what I would consider below average professional lens cost, all things considered. You can get lost in all this but really, a sub $1200au professional cine (or any) lens these days is a win.

It does all that along with many glowing recommendations from Vespid Mk1 users and any more hair splitting would serve nobody.

Mostly, I want more of this look

Delicate, nuanced, harmonious and f%#king sharp!

I was tempted to wait for an even lower price, but I doubt it would come in any substantial form, they are already at “run out” pricing. The company I purchased from sometimes do great deals on in -stock lenses***, but they have no Vespids on inventory after selling their last 40mm (to me) and I felt that a purchase before tax time made sense.

The 21 was in the mix, but it felt risky as it is considered a softer and warmer lens than the rest and limited in best use case scenarios as a 21/30/38/42 (and I have those covered*).

The 18 or 24 MkII’s were there also, but the reality of price and possibly not matching the Mk1 40mm any better than the 21 pushed them away. If I were given a budget to shoot a real docco, I would get a few of these, Thypochs, or maybe just complete my Mk1’s.

Everything else (Infinte, Thypoch) became too much brain juice to process.

I now have over four effective formats, a complete range of 25-80**, almost unbroken in matched lenses as well as a set of MFT Hope/Vision and a full frame IRIX 150 macro of similar quality. Add to this a set of Panasonic S-primes, Spectrums, Sirui anamorphic and others and I can handle most things.

*If I am going to try something with wide angles that is a little risky, I will not be using an expensive and heavy full frame cinema lens to do it.

**stabe crop and 4/6K-2K conversions aside.

***My half price IRIX, Spectrums and the 20% off Vespid.

A Word On Bokeh (It's That Time Again)

I have been looking at a lot of lens videos lately, too many I know, but Bokeh has once again risen to the top as my pet peeve.

It’s not that I am not a believer, I was there at the beginning (have the original Photo Techniques mag that started it all) and it is certainly not that I don’t subscribe to the need to balance the quality of Bokeh with sharpness and other elements of a lens.

I am there, full noise, total commitment, I buy glass with it as a major consideration.

I do feel though that there is a lot of science being applied to something that simply is and should be appreciated for that.

Even Gerald Undone has something to say here (about 71/2 mins in) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwUg3XWZttI

Bokeh to me, is an art form. It is a perception of a reality, an impression, something that cannot be quantified mathematically, just appreciated or not.

To me there are only three types of Bokeh.

  1. Good Bokeh, the Bokeh that lifts an image to another level. Like distracting Bokeh below, it is part of the image, but in an exceptional way.

  2. Bokeh that does no harm, or “invisible” Bokeh.

  3. Bad or interesting Bokeh that distracts, intentionally or not, from the main subject of the image, making the rendering part of the experience.

This is when Bokeh is a neutral element of the image, not distracting, but also not as perfect as it could be. You are drawn to the sharp elements in contrast to the soft.

The same lens, Bokeh just being itself, not good or bad. In the past, the draw of the lens would only have been worthy of comment in comparison to another lens.

The Sigma 28-70 is a safe bet. Everything about that lens is safe and reliable, just not my style sometimes.

A kit Olympus telephoto can provide Bokeh and good blur at that. I often shoot through things with this lens, responding to the quality of the foreground. This happens, we all do it, responding instinctively to lens rendering strengths and weaknesses we see, but don’t notice.

The Bokeh in this shot is ok, but not perfect. The slightly nervous look causes me some mild concern and awareness of the lens used. This was taken with the Olympus 45 f1.8 at f2, usually reliably excellent.

The 28mm Thypoch, a special lens in many ways.

My Spectrum 50mm is a cheap cine lens, but one thing they did well was Bokeh rendering. It is less interesting and delicate than the Vespid, but no less beautiful.

Good Bokeh can come from funny places. This is my excellent 20-60 Panasonic kit lens.

Some old school funky stuff from an antique Nikkor 28mm. The price paid for a sharp bit of legacy glass. A little Ni-Sen maybe.

The Japanese have a saying “weather is”, meaning it is going to be in some form, like it or not, just accept it.

Bokeh is the same.

Some Bokeh makes you want to avoid it, some times draws you in like flies to honey (no law what type of honey you are after), some elevates, some distracts, some goes by unnoticed, some intrigues.

It always is, you just have to decide how you want to control it and whether you like it or not and even before the phenomenon was named up, we reacted to it.

Science is not a good measure of Bokeh, instincts are better.

I remember reading the original article by John Kennerdell and Mike Johnson in Darkroon and Creative Camera Techniques magazine back in the early 90’s with wondrous eyes https://www.ppa.com/ppmag/articles/the-art-of-the-bokeh.

The whole edition of the mag was dedicated to this mysterious term from Japan, the only bit I was less enthusiastic for, and I don’t think I ever read it, was the technical break down.

Bokeh is not just the shapes of highlight blurr-balls in wide open night time photos, it is present in every image ever made to some extent, any image where one part is slightly less in focus than another.

Both Kennerdell and Johnson championed deeper depth of field Bokeh in later editions of that and other mags or Johnson’s The Online Photographer blog and went to great lengths to explain that it is a universal phenomenon, not just an extreme gimmick.

Crunch Time

Ok, its going to be another Vespid from the older series to match my 40mm if I choose to go forward.

It’s most likely going to be the Vespid 25mm wide angle, which will cover several useful focal lengths from rarely used true wide for establishing shots (need to use this more), to semi-wide standards in both formats then true 50mm standard in MFT. If I am going to introduce a genuine cine lens into my current landscape, it is the logical one. Useful on all formats, respected, a Vespid that sits closer to the pure end than others, one that is probably closest to the MkII’s than most.

Feels right.

One consideration driving this is the lack of a 35-45mm option in C4k RAW from the S5. The 40mm I have is cropped to an APS-c 60mm unless I use the file hungry 6k setting.

Vespid 25 T2.1

Pros

  • Sharpest across the frame and one of the better controlled Vespids. A nice mate to the 40mm and consistent opinions from users are that the 21 is lovely, but the 25 is sharper.

  • It can take a standard hood to control flare, which is in turn more controlled than some. This is down to the tighter view more than eveything.

  • A more practical and “normal” wide for general use, it then straddles either side of 40mm in S35/1.8x MFT* formats or for slight compressed a 50mm in MFT. The reality is, with stabe it is more like a 30mm anyway, one of the draws of the 21mm.

Cons

  • It is physically 2” longer than the 40 or 21. This may also be a plus as the 40mm is a little cramped on some rigs, otherwise it matters not.

Combinations on the S5 and GH5s/G9II of 25 + 70/80, 38 + 70/80, 45/50 + 40, 45/50 + 60*.

Other options have been rejected for a variety of reasons.

The Vespid 21 was close, really close, but the range of 21/32 and a pair of near 40’s in MFT was both more and less exciting and the lens is reputed to be more “cinematic” in look, so maybe less universal in application.

The 21 is potentially more creative, but because of that less useful, although on the S5, the two lenses would have four discreet focal lengths and MFT would have a sub 50mm option. The G9II and my many MFT wide options (Vision 12, AF Leica 9 + 8-18 and lots of 12’s) are probably better suited here anyway.

I toyed with the idea of the Thypoch 21, but different mounts again, less system consistency and again, overlapping with the role of the G9II were all off-putting. If it came in PL mount, I would have likely gone that way.

The Infinite 16 or 24 were outliers, one was an idea of replacing the Hope 16 that did not work out. Another different look, maybe a catalyst for another kit to grow into and at sub $1000au, one that would entice.

These look to be technically as good or better than the Vespid 1’s, close even to the II’s, but I have not seen any sample footage that confirms they have the same magic sauce. If they are effectively larger format Hopes, I have that clean and relatively unexciting commercial look covered.

the Vespid 24 MkII was never really in the race due to its price, even though it is more compact, faster and sharper wide open (better for MFT), less prone to flare and warmer, as well as ever so slightly wider than the 25 (a 24/36 on S5, 43/48 on MFT*). I am after a character lens, something the MkIIs’ have tamed somewhat. I have tame, I have safe.

Annoyingly, 24m, yes a single mm, makes a difference to my thinking, It is ideal, basically the sae as a wide, but a 35 if cropped and 43/48 on MFT, just a little less tight. If the Vespid MkI was a 24, it would not be a competition.

This is just a price bracket I am not interested in, although I am ok with waiting for a deal and being the new set on the block, there is no rush. The magic would be there, colour matching a small issue, but my camera sensors do not even match perfectly, so no point getting too hopeful there.

So, A Vespid Mk1 25mm sometime soon-ish, or not as things can go. It needs to come from money earned by video, like the 40mm was, or I am not interested, so it might take a while anyway. I am open to the Hope 25 and Vespid working ok together, then the whole thing goes away.

*these are inaccurate when stabilising is included, only the GH5S’s MFT 1.8x format is immune.

Speaking Of Film, How About A 70's Lens Just For Fun.

I bought a mint condition Ai Nikkor 28 f2.8 while in Japan. It is the 7 element one, not the legendary Ai-s 8 element model, that would have likely set me back $600+, but for a quarter of that I got 85% of it, maybe more.

Not sure why I bought it other than it was one of many lenses of interest that has popped up in my travels and the price ($135au) was good. I remember from the Nikon collectors guide that I had for years, all the 28’s of that era, even the cheap “E” series were good.

Very first shot, f4 I think (really need to take note). Anyway, not wide open but near it.

Yeah, its sharp with very pleasant contrast.

The front lemon had a near blown highlight patch that recovered effortlessly.

Lots of fruit around here at the moment.

Wide open it has good rendering, colours are smooth and harmonious.

Bokeh is……… interesting. More of a win for video I think.

At f8 I was still able to separate a plane of focus.

Easier at f2.8, but I did miss the leaf I was actually aiming for.

The most flare I could get up, the little line of blue streaks is nice.

Thoughts;

Fun to use and the K&F adapter is as tight as a drum both ends. I really felt at home with it, which is interesting as I shot Canon FD/EF and Olympus OM for thirty years, Olympus and Panasonic for the next 15, but this Nikon’s manual focussing and aperture ring felt natural.

This is a problem.

All my cine glass, my Lumix and various other bits focus “push in” and “pull out”, which I always struggle with no matter how hard I practice. I get it, then like driving a car on the opposite side of the road you were bought up with, my mind betrays me and I get lost. It’s better with a focus assist, but hard to crack. This thing goes the other way and felt as natural as mothers milk.

Shit.

I might get a MFT adapter as well, but for now, I have a neat, classy, retro bit of kit for the S5’s, and another arrow in my video quiver. I also got vibes of the little Pen-F 25 f2.8, so maybe a decently matched pair?

Film......Really?

A few years to go I meet my half way point between my film years and my digital years.
I often think of my film years as my ‘dark” years. I shot a lot, but not many images were shared, lots of money was spent on feeding a constant need for film, gear not as important and some went into the darkroom for relatively little return.

I do not miss film.

I can alive with digital. I could shoot for free, experiment, revisit old work with a fresh processing eye, share, grow and learn. My film experience gave me an edge of a while, a better technical grounding, but that was all.

I sometimes get nostalgic for the “old days”, specifically the 1980-90’s a time when cameras were either cool and mechanically reliable or starting to get advanced and convenient, if then slaves to expensive replaceable batteries.

I am nostalgic I think, more for the time, not the processes and certainly not the results. I was young impressionable, excited about the world and photography was my gateway to it. If it came in another form, I would have used that form.

A perfect combination for me would be digital processes with pre 2000’s film era sensibilities. Ironically, this is the vibe young practitioners of film are also chasing.

I am happy I once knew how to use it, I still use the lessons learned every day. I can still load a mechanical film camera instinctively even exotic ones, I always check a body by habit before opening it, I love that new film smell, but no, I do not miss it and I certainly do not feel it can do something I cannot access now.

I am also aware that I have knowledge locked away in my old brain that will be lost one day, things like secret formulas I, or others used (one friend won several international salons with mono images developed in paper developer) and I also know that in real terms that does not matter now, like knowing the secret of an old otter cycle, the object of obsession is now too rare to matter.

Film has now become a tool for artists, who by their nature are not super technical in the purest sense, tending to create their own reality, it’s called art.

I do miss black and white film………. not. This was a colour digital snap, with “mono memory” applied. Glad I remember what film used to look like, but after years of trying to perfect my technique, it is often not what you see today. We increased sharpness, decreased grain, pushed our tones, but usually not too far. The file above would have been a good result from a medium format camera, so getting it from a beaten up old EM1 Mk2 was a win also. I am not introducing any grain, light leaks, or other “failings” of film, because when I shot it, we actually tried to avoid that.

My last clutch of film cameras, many accumulated in the late 2000’s when film cameras could not be given away, were either traded, sold or gifted when the trend took off again (2015 or so). More irony came when I spent the money from one bunch on a digital printer.

My only regret in hind sight is knowing I have had at one point or another, basically every old film era classic lens that videographers are lusting after now. Many Canon FD’s and EF, some Olympus OM, some Nikon AI-s, even Pentax PK, medium format and screw mount classics.

My darkroom gear, lovingly accumulated over decades, all went one day to a work colleague and the only time I miss it is when I meet someone I would have rather given it to.

Film in these parts is limited, I live on an island state with a population of under half a million spread over four small cities. I live in the second biggest, a large town by most measures, so yes, I do have a local lab, but it is limited and we only have one. that handles film. Otherwise things have to go to Hobart or interstate.

This makes film a fragile and limited commodity, something that to be honest, has not been worth the effort for me for nearly two decades.

There was a nobility to be found in anything, film photography is no different, but it is important to differentiate the nobility of process and it’s processes. Shooting film is not a licence to be better, it is a choice to make life harder for yourself with the assumption that it will elevate your results.

This may not always be the case.

I get it, every camera, lens, practitioner, process has its look, but before you worship on the emulsion altar, ask yourself if the process makes as much difference as it needs to.

There are many large format shooters that do have an edge in their results, but they were extreme even in the film past.

There is always a temptation to abuse digital conveniences, but there is also always another option. Being considered, slowing down, being precise should not need film to force it, it should be a choice.

Try this if you want to be more “considered”.

Find/buy/steal a 2gb card and shoot on it for two weeks. As you shoot do all the work up front, resist the desire to “chimp” and adjust your files (tape some card over your screen even). Shoot and move on.

It works, it feels like shooting film, it just avoids the down sides.

My Pen F has a textured back to its flip screen, designed to make the camera look like it does not have a screen (if you want) and it allows you to apply very filmic mono pre-sets, but I prefer to use a RAW file as a base.

It also has a very early implementation of high res mode, meaning you have to be careful and selective on the day, so like using slow film, you have to work with the world, not against it and sometimes, you just have to be patient.

This might also be of interest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFCJ51K-7Zs

Vespid Fixed.

The Neewer ND filter I use in my matt box is decent, good even and it withstands comparison to dearer filters. I have used it without fear up until now. The other day, when testing the Vespid (and other lenses used the same filter, so this is a Vespid thing), it manifested a variety of odd flare behaviour, some of which were image ruining and a few were very hard to explain, like purple reflections when there were no light sources in or even out of frame.

I jumped online and grabbed a 77mm Hoya 32 or 5 stop ND filter. I find five stop filters allow me full reign in daylight, switching to either a 3 stop in lower light or no filter at all, but with the ISO performance of the S5, 5 stops is fine.

Strait away it was a different experience.

The same situation roughly, but to be honest behaviour was so erratic last time, I was expecting a lot of other results. I will call this a win.

Veiling flare was evident, but again, even enough that I could remove it globally.

I also liked some of the Bokeh and flares I discovered when chasing focus or transitioning.

I think anytime it flares but not uncontrollably is a win. In the file below, the top right was screaming red at me (blown highlights in BMVA language).

The lens is superbly balanced on my S5 rig, making it a great hand held option and focussing is easy. It produces beautifully sharp points of interest, without being heavy handed and produces lovely, interesting, even exciting images.

Keen To Call It From Here.

The Vespid gives me something special, something I have not had in video before, but I feel it is enough now. Spending more on an unknown is less appealing as I go on.

The Thypoch 28mm I have access to will be used for video tomorrow and I will decide then if that is the way to go, either the stills lens or the cine, not sure.

My two core kits, the S5 and Vespid, GH5s and Hope 25, both with Video Assists mounted.

There are lenses in the frame, the 7Artisans Infinte, 37 Floral Bloom (need to see some MFT format samples), the Vespid I and II wides, the Thypoch 28 in some form, but right now, I will sit and wait.

I am happy to admit the Vespid has opened my eyes to difference a true cinema lens makes and that I cannot put it into words at this point. Until I can, until I can quantify the look I am after, there is little point in chasing rainbows.

There is also an adapter for my mint Nikon 28mm coming. Might be a nice surprise there.

More Testing Fun (Quiet Day Here).

The little 12mm Vision Prime is a forgotten child really, probably a good hint that I don’t use wide angles much!

It is a solid little lump, taller than it is deep, heavier for it’s size than most and optically very decent.

It has a secret weapon, the ability to close focus down to…., well lets just say, if you use a matt box, you may hit the filter on your subject before you reach its minimum!

All tests shot on the GH5s with BMVA set to C4k Q3. The Hope is a 45mm on that camera, the Vespid a 70mm and the 12mm is roughly a 20mm.

An early clip, where I did just that.

You straight away start thinking angles and getting close, very close. Corners can look a bit funky, but they sharp when needed, Bokeh just goes a little off campus from time to time.

Or you can let them come to you. I have found this lens is a good fit with the Hope primes giving me a handy 12, 25, 50 set and the disappointing 16mm (one sample) and too wide 10mm put me off chasing more Hope glass. It was also really, really nice to hand hold, the G9II was seriously gimbal like with this little lump of glass up front.

Turns out, the lens can almost focus on the back of the matt box filter (notice the little blobs top right, they moved with the lens, not the sun).

During this test the sun was behind a cloud, if I had just waited ten minutes….

So, while these were loading, I thought I might give the 25mm Hope another run in some nicer light (which happened pretty much as soon as I finished with above).

Also capable of some pretty good close focus.

I managed several usable files at different points in this framing. This is warmer, how the lens rendered the one above also, but I changed it to match the Vespid better.

Taken on the Vespid a few minutes later, but I failed to get a sharp enough image of the front fronds (because it was not sharp). The Hope totally won this contest, sharper results and easier to get. Interesting.

Something I only noticed when posting, is the Vespid files are darker, because I am responding to the tonality of the lens in the grade, not processing for stills presentation. This is neither good nor bad, it just is. The Vespid allows me to see subtle tones that may not be translated successfully, the Hope is, as I have said before, a simpler and cleaner image, just less subtle.

Hope, straight into the sun. Bokeh seems to have less colour and separation, but I have pushed in clser on the shorter lens.

Vespid for the same, but this was a rare win.

As was this. I will give it to the Vespid for colour and depth, but there are other factors.

Then I got a whole series of these, I mean lots and you should have seen them in false colour on the BMVA screen!

Even a few of these.

Then this, in middle of a load of rubbish, some perfectly normal behaviour. I do not entirely blame the lens for this, the cheap Neewer ND in front is likely not helping, but I used the same filter in front of every lens I tested today and this was the only one that freaked out. I then bought a decent ND for the lens end, so I will see if this helps.

Lovely gentle rendering from the Vespid, which ass a 70mm on this camera.

Slightly different time and angle as well as focal length (45mm equiv), but the more robust and utilitarian look of the Hope. Safe as houses, just maybe not as exciting.

Hard to get a totally sharp shot of a moving target at 25 fps, but I managed a few. Collar detail was the intent. Hope version at T2.1

Ten minutes later and Archie obliged in almost the same spot, Vespid version at T4. More 3d pop here, but this is a 72mm effectively as opposed to a 45mm equivalent.

So, more consolidation of what I already felt.

The Hope and Vision lenses are my solid MFT choices. Easy to use, sharp, fairly bullet proof and pleasing to the eye.

The Vespid is capable of a more delicate, neutral and nuanced image, especially in shadow detail, but it can go a little crazy some times.

If I assume the Vespid is the full frame standard, the Hope 25 for MFT, then I have a strong base to work from and when I try to be fair to both, they can work together. If I want a second full frame cam, I will use an S-prime, probably the 35 or the Spectrum 50, as these have given me the most cool-neutral files so far, but I still need to test that.

A second MFT cam could be either the 50 or the 12 no issue.

Closing In On A Decision

Looking at a mate for the PL mount Vespid, the Vespid 25 Mk1 is floating to the top.

The Mk2 24mm is technically better, but if I defuse the whole “better being the enemy of good” thing, is it really that much better than the Mk1 for me?

I have responded very positively to the 40mm, probably better than I would have hoped to the quality of the footage and have to admit that when compared to the Hope glass, there was an honest utility to the Hope’s, but a special something in the Vespid files, that I may be closer to understanding.

In the mix for a New York second was the 7Artisans Infinte (not a typo) 24 for as little 870au, a lens that has reviewed well against the Vespid 2’s and Nisi Athena’s, so likely as good technically as the Mk1’s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm8DhFCR4Vc , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfAsC9-lKcE and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTwDUHEwm50 , with a cooler look that matches my favoured glass, but a couple of things came forward that I was sensitive to from previous experience.

The built consistency of 7Art lenses, and this goes for all three sets I have touched on, is mixed. One reviewer praised their Hope 85 for its smooth focus, but said their 25 is a little tight. My 25 is perfect, my 100 is tighter, my 16 (returned) was horrible and the optics were iffy. All the reviewers above of the Infinte range said as much, that they were not consistent in a set or same lens to lens.

Mount tightness is not an issue, the PL-mount will see to that.

They have some other mechanical quirks like oddly placed barrel marking, their weight (1kg+) and filter thread, which seems to be settling on 77mm for me, but the Infinte are 82.

The Vespid is “perfectly” heavy, inertia just right without being cumbersome on my S5 rig (cage, rails, NP battery plate, BMVA 5” and handle). I find movements with this are very steady, something that lighter rigs like with an S-Prime are too light for.

One of the things I have responded to with the Vespid is handling, which seems to be about ideal with the exception of my habit of grabbing the aperture ring by mistake. This is a product of the fairly long barrel, no focus assist and lack of practice (only my third test with the lens) and I do the same with the similarly sized Hopes as well. On the Spectrum, the shorter barrel made finding the aperture ring harder and to its credit, but this is a bit of a lucky dip, the aperture ring is obviously tighter.

The focussing the Spectrum was nice, but not as smooth as the Vespid, sometimes even seeming to “settle” and resist focus pulling after a longer transition.

The second issue is the image. They look more like competition for the cleaner Vespid 2’s or Nisi’s, sharp and contrasty, cool toned and match well with warmer Panasonic cams, but I am maybe after a different look, the Vespid 1 look.

All the files in this post were shot wide open, where the Vespid Mk1’s are weak or if you drink the cool aide, at their most “cinematic”. The file above was bright and clean when opened, I have graded to a punchier look and it was easy with just RAW exposure and curves. What the Vespid manages to do, is add a little something to the file, something I am struggling to define other than to say "more delicate and complicated”. So, where is the image ruining CA, flare and wide open softness?

While these files were loading, it occurred to me to test the Spectrum 50mm in roughly the same (twenty minutes later) morning light. To my eye, the light was much the same, but the results were interesting.

Same grade applied and boy, are these different lenses. Like the Hope glass, the files seem to be simpler, less complicated and perfectly usable, but the feeling of the file, the mind set it creates, is so very different to either the Hopes or Vespid.

I did a little adjusting to even the comparison out (quite a large white balance and tint shift), using only my memory of the Vespid file and ended up here. Still noticeably cooler and more contrasty.

Framing is interesting. In almost every case, I shot further back with the Vespid, a wider lens, I feel and some of this may be evident below, is because there is a more subtle rendering, more fine detail and tonal separation allowing me to shoot wider and pick out details.

The Spectrum seems to make me go in closer and chase the focus point, which is harder as the Vespid has the better close focus. The lens is considerably lighter, but there is more to this I feel.

This is common and something I notice often with different lenses. The Typoch 28 drew me in, the IRIX macro (oddly) seems to push me away from the subject. My S-Primes have a stand-offish feel, the Pana M43 lenses also, the Oly glass tends to push me in.

Every lens is different, they all seem to be trying to tell me something.

The Vespid again, rich colours and depth, strong contrast and maybe micro contrast. Something very right about the file, but notice the weird flare mark on the right from the Neewer ND filter in the matt box. This happened a lot, not sure how or why, as the sun was behind me and hidden?

The Spectrum. If there was ever an argument for keeping several sets of matched lenses for their different strengths, this is it. Same exposure (T2 on this lens), but the light may have been stronger as the false colour was washed out a little and focussing was harder.

Again the Vespid. Rich, deep colour, with delicate detail.

The Spectrum does the same again. A brighter, lighter and simpler file. Nice Bokeh, good sharpness wide open. Bokeh is nicer on the Vespid, but for a sub $500au lens against a lens that launched for $2k, this is pretty respectable.

This file with the Vespid was easy to grade (in fact they all were with a simple “apply grade from previous” and adjust), a little work in curves applied to bring out the pop in the leaf and just a lovely file.

The cooler version from the Spectrum, possibly a punchier file, but it took some doing as the initial copy-paste grade was light and flat. Colours are cooler and they also seem to be less nuanced. Bokeh looks to me more ball or cats eye shaped with smears, the Vespid is more complicated and subtle here.

This file is interesting, I was trying to flare the Vespid, which I did, but after a little work, that mostly went away.

The hope file looks duller and cooler, but this is it, same space, same light (slightly different angle) and basically no veiling flare.

I did notice this funky Bokeh though. The Spectrum is a bit of a mystery packer here. Usually quite pleasant it can throw in some wild card stuff.

It looks like I respond to the depth of the Vespids rendering, leaning into the subtle colour and detail on offer.

Same grade on the Spectrum, totally different look. If I go into darker and moodier settings with this lens, I do not respond as well, so I am guessing the micro contrast and more neutral rendering are allowing me more freedom with the Vespid, the Spectrum is more a matter of reacting to what I see.

So far, I can see a valid use case for the Spectrum (simple and more defined rendering and possibly flare prone environments), but in all but one case, I have preferred the Vespid files.

Again darker, looking for small points of contrast. The grade wrote itself, chasing darkness and points of light. I went looking for a single water droplet. The Bokeh is interesting on this one from soap bubble balls, to smeary brush strokes and a little busy in the background.

I feel that losing at there comparisons, the Spectrum files could all do with more aggressive grading, but when I tried, the files were not as deep, not as giving. They wanted a flatter and brighter grade and fought against the alternative. Bokeh is more controlled in this file, but all together less interesting!

So, apart from different looking files, and a different experience overall, the Spectrum 50mm, that cost me under $300au new has a place in my kit because it is different, which is enough. The 35 may be closer in colour, but I am only guessing here.

There is a lot to be said for not mixing glass from different sets. If you do, it is probably best to have a defined and different role for each, like a OSMO or macro lens so the differences are disguised by circumstances.

I will be getting the Vespid 25mm Mk1, because I need to match the 40mm in all ways mechanical and visual, something my other lenses will not do easily. The Mk2’s are great, but I cannot justify the expense or risk achieving an even more jumbled mess, so if I ever go there, it will be another matched set, but I doubt there will be a need.

Dark and subtle, this is a trend with the Vespid.

The 7 Artisans Infinte are interesting, but same again and I have a decent showing from the brand, I have pushed my luck enough.

7Artisans make good glass, but seem to struggle with consistency, so if you end up with matching lenses, go you, but it is not guaranteed. For the price, I may go there for an exotic lens like a 16 or 135mm, but then I would have 8 distinct sets represented…….. .

The 25 will provide me with a full frame wide that’s better than the bottom end of a kit zoom, a 40ish focal length in APS-c or 1.8x MFT formats and a nifty fifty on regular MFT. It has a good reputation for sharpness, especially In cropped formats to avoid corner softness and from what I have read and seen, it is a good match for the 40mm.

I just like the ease with which I can capture and grade files like this.

The other thing is, I am sooo sick of thinking about it.

Something I have learned here, something that needs to be shared but is hard to explain, is the difference a lens can make, any lens. You only know by using it, all the videos in the world will nt make this clear to you.

I feel the Vespid is sharper with more micro detail and colour contrast, then slightly softened by some CA wide open, giving the effect of a very sharp lens with a mild filter on. That is cinematic I guess.

The 40mm Vespid is just right for me, maybe a 25mm will not be, but by sticking to type, I am hoping so.

Hope vs Vespid, A Better Test

This time, thanks to the PL-MFT adapter arriving, I can compare the Hope 50 to the Vespid using the same camera and format.

I processed the first file (Hope at T2), then applied the same grade to all files. One file, the Vespid at T4 was over exposed, either user error or a change in the light, which was happening, but let’s assume it was me, so that was normalised.

I moved the tripod to give the two lenses a similar composition, but I was far from precise.

The Hope at T2, Nice Bokeh, sharp and warm-neutral, balanced to my eye and the assumed white balance of the space.

The Vespid at T2. Slight visible CA and a cooler tint, maybe more neutral. The Vespid file looks a little more open and the Bokeh more complicated with soup bubble hints, while the Hope is more controlled and flat, but that is subjective. I tend to find cooler images look sharper to my eye.

It occurs to me that the Vespid files, even after I processed the Hope first, look very true to the GH5s look, which tends to favour cool-magenta, so I processed away from that, then the Vespid bought it back. In my last test I did the opposite with the even warmer 25mm and did it no favours.

On closer inspection sharpness seems to be a wash, the Hope benefitting from basically no CA, the Vespid exhibiting obvious signs of it possibly softening a sharper base image. Again Bokeh is “safe” on the Hope, interesting and delicate on the Vespid.

The Hope is maybe cleaner overall, more commercially useful.

I feel the Hope has a very un-opinionated rendering (perfect for some). It is safe, takes no chances, gives you what you expect to see, but just from these tests I have felt getting some extra vibrance in the grade is the trick to them.

The Vespid lives closer to the edge, gives you that extra vibrance, pushes for more delicate and finer separation, more fragile Bokeh, more “pop” as they say, but can come unstuck sometimes.

The Hope at T4. I have found with these, all that changes is the depth of field. very reliable.

The Vespid at T4. Much better behaviour now, no CA, cleaner looking, still some “pop”. The Vespid file is maybe more 3D looking, but it is a shorter focal length?

Looking closer again, it is pretty obvious that either lens in their happy place can max out 4-6k resolution, but I know that because either can take great stills at 20+ mp.

The Vespid slightly sharper? Maybe because of more micro contrast or the cooler tones (the Hope lacks some separation above due to a warmer lean).

Again the Hope is the safe bet, the honest workhorse, the Vespid is the wild child, more delicate, more….. something I find it hard to define, just maybe more.

So, in the quest to justify the Vespid and maybe get another, I may have as offer clearly different character, which is enough and one can fit into both kits.

The two Hope lenses I have are mated well, giving me a sound base line for MFT, but do they match a full frame lens on an S5?

I feel confident with my Spectrum glass, the 35mm feeling closest to these in colour and rendering, maybe the Sigma zoom or 50mm S-prime as well.

The Spectrum 50mm on the other hand gives me Vespid vibes, so to match that lens, maybe the Vespid on MFT and the Spectrum on a full frame?

If I get the second lens, the 25 on MFT and the 40 on full frame or APS-c would make a matched pair, but a third lens?

If I leave it a while and can justify it, maybe a pair of Mk2’s as a set, the 40mm as my indulgence for now.

Considering cameras, the other half of the equation, the S5 can only give me full frame in B-Raw at 5.9k 25fps, so to use the 40mm as purchased, I generate massive files and only have one frame rate option. The 25mm would match that in APS-c, allowing me to use 4k 25 and 50 fps.

The GH5s seems to like the rendering of the Vespids, the colours seeming to come from the same place, neutral-cool to slightly magenta. The Spectrum 50 and S-prime 35 do this also, but do not fit MFT. The GH5s has more B-Raw 4k options without a crop, so a 25mm Vespid would also work on that (maybe I should have just bought that in the first place?)

The G9II, is the third cam that can shoot B-Raw, but I rarely do, using it more as a versatile hybrid and keep it light weight.

The S5II is the warmest rendering of my cams, so the Vespids would balance out well, but only in V-Log.

If I were to try to categorise my lenses, the Spectrum 50, Vespid, my anamorphics and 35 and 85 S-primes and IRIX render cooler and crunchier files.

The Spectrum 35, S-prime 50, the Hopes and Vision 12mm are warmer and simpler in rendering.

When I bought the 40mm on sale, it seemed destined. I was in Japan, the add came up as a spot deal, I jumped and it was mine, no more available. I saved enough to cover the Nisi adapter (also on sale), then grabbed the MFT one (also on sale-it just gets better).

The second adapter muddied the waters a little, but to be honest, having a PL-MFT adapter opens up a world of potential wonder for the future.

The lens was bought to scratch the comparison itch we all suffer from sometimes and it did that, while giving me the classic 40mm in full frame, but can I just sit on that now? I think I can be happy that both formats are well served with options of all types and the Vespid can be a “one lens” option, at least for a while (maybe until Black Friday?).

Hope Vs Vespid, Time To Find Out

I did a little test, not very scientific (or straight) but hopefully enough to know.

The Vespid on the S5 (5.9k B-Raw, 8:1) vs the GH5s (C4k Q3), same capture settings (wide open, ISO 800), some base grade (4800 white balance, no tint, no exposure adjustment, then an equaliser).

The Vespid, with mild soap bubble Bokeh and a cool tint. Lovely look as expected, the Bokeh a little Ni-sen or cross-eyed and CA is obvious. It looks “poppy” but it does have an almost x1/2 depth of field advantage.

Apart from the slight framing miss and the extra C4k width, the full frame depth of field difference is obvious* taking away from the file by comparison and the exposure looks brighter and very warm, which is not the camera as the GH5s runs cool-magenta. No breathing or CA, but focus was slightly harder to acquire, likely down to the brighter exposure (false colour was mostly light grey and grey) and the difference in depth and framing.

No way of comparing Bokeh here as the DOF is too different thanks to the difference in formats, but there is a difference. The Hope looks “safe” overall, maybe even boringly so, the Vespid is a little more edgy, a bit more opinionated.

The CA on the Vespid file has robbed it of some fine detail rendering, even with more actual resolution.

What this would mean though is, if I were to get a Vespid wide for the full frame, I would have less DOF than the same settings on an MFT with the Vision 12mm.

The Vespid again. Smooth and natural looking, basically no focus breathing noticed.

The Hope, a little over exposed, so it lets in some more light? No focus breathing either. The Vespid was easier to focus, but shallower depth of field helps there. I actually really like the faux T4 (MFT T2.1) depth on this one, more coherent, natural and more of a story teller.

Hope on the left again, but I did balance the shot a little this time. No point in poor exposure matching (either way) skewing the results. The advantage of MFT depth of field is evident here, holding more foreground detail.

Ok, the question may be answered. The Hope looks to be as sharp or sharper wide open with no CA, the Vespid has a feeling of CA fuzziness, the difference in cameras and formats having more to do with the difference in look.

The Hope is brighter, slightly snappier wide open with no CA and warmer by a mile as it goes (both camera sensors lean cool).

As they came out, I preferred the Vespid file, but several things are at play;

  • The shallower depth always looks more “cinematic” and grown up.

  • The warmer and slightly brighter Hope file will by it’s very nature look less deep and punchy, softer even (white balance is sooo important here).

  • Things were not perfectly aligned as the lenses were different actual focal lengths and I was no scientist here.

  • I processed and exposed for the first camera, the S5 and Vespid, so it got the best of everything, although I did try to be fair and base-line my settings (even ignoring the difference in false colour).

  • The Hope file was actually cropped more from a smaller base file (not by much, but enough), so I was not totally fair here either, but the respective cameras gave me few other options as the S5 only does full frame RAW in 5.9k and the GH5s in C4k.

  • The Hope is known for better flare, CA, distortion and vignetting control, the Vespid for it’s unique look, all of which I am seeing here.

Maybe another test comparing the Vespid to the Hope 50 on the same camera, as my MFT mount arrived during the test. This may be a bit of a waste, but I picked one up cheap, so again, I let fate guide my hand. The Vespid butchers bill is now about square, but two adapters for one.

My feelings from here are a little confused.

If I were to get the 25mm Vespid Mk1, what would be accomplished other than a wide angle for the full frames with shallow depth of field and a decent, but probably unnecessary, new standard for the MFT cams? It is different to the Hopes and similar to the 40mm, so a dual win there.

If I went with the Mk2 24mm, would I get a noticeably better lens than the Hope and if so, what role would either then play? A replacement MFT standard or again a wide for the S5, but do I really need that? Matching the two Vespid series might be as difficult as matching the Hope to the Vespid.

A lens that could be a 40mm in 4k RAW with a forced APS-c crop on the S5 maybe (back to the 25mm)? Cheaper to just use what I have in 6k and ditch the masters after processing down or use one of the 35’s I have at hand.

The biggest question is, what role does the Vespid play? It is gorgeous, but many of my other options are enough, more than enough even. With two adapters I have a one lens-multiple cameras kit, which is a bit backwards, but guarantees a similar look.

The 25mm is floating to the top because it is a different look to the Hope, flawed where the Hope is stronger, it is cheaper than the 24, it matches the 40mm and is suffering from a serious case of better being the enemy of good, even great. I guess if the Hope could cover full frame and had a PL mount, I would be golden.

I like the 40 for it’s look, that intangible thing that I have to admit it seems to have over the Hope, even if I cannot put a finger on what it is. I was however, surprised by the sheer quality also, so the 25 would undoubtedly provide the same.

I had hoped to find either a clear difference on looks or quality and found the former, the one I wanted to find. The Mk1 Vespids are still excellent and beautiful in their own way, the Hopes are clean and safe. Perfect.

Now, can I justify effectively three cine series for each format, even if one if shared?

My next test will be using the same camera with the 50mm Hope and Vespid, just to see if a more level playing field would make less difference.

*The two lenses are similar in magnification for their respective formats, but the full frame lens is almost twice as long by actual focal length. Also, I messed up the framing slightly, pushing the 25mm back a little too much.

Video Glass, Why And How?

The Vespid has shifted the bar for me a little.

It is reassuring, even exciting to have a true (budget) cine lens in the kit, but also a little unsettling. I am happy enough that I have bought the MFT-PL adapter as well to maximise its potential (covering 40/60 and 70/80 focal lengths across my four formats)

This can lead to a syndrome I am aware of, something I noticed years ago when I bought high end Hi Fi gear.

Upgrade your cables and then you start looking sideways at your amp, then your speakers, then a source provider, then…… you do it all again. Balance is important, shifting it can be as bad as it is good and doing so needs to be done with some consideration.

It cost me tons back in the day, but it kept me busy and at the top of my game (I was selling the stuff as well).

My first to be settled question is can the Hope and other lenses I have keep up or provide something different enough to matter? Can they be the partners the Vespid needs to function as part of a team, or is this going to force a shift across the board when multiple cams are used and will the other lenses fall away?

Once I do some tests, I will maybe put this to bed.

If not, where to from here?

I have the IRIX 150 macro in L-Mount, several sets of Spectrum (L), Hope (MFT) and stills lenses (for both mounts), none of which I want to make redundant, but also, if the Vespid is better by enough to matter, I will not hold myself back out of blind loyalty.

Nothing is ever wasted, but sometimes you need to move forward to support your “A” game.

If they are good but different, then that is fine, each lens set can have its own job.

The Hope lenses for example are clean and robust, match reasonably (matched colour is a small issue with the two I have, but no more than mixing cameras), they are clearly capable of good work, so if they offer something the Vespid does not, they are an option.

Based on cosmetics, it looks an easy job.

So, assuming I have options, or the Vespid elevates my base, the logical (?) thing is to add the 25mm Vespid MkI ($1200au). It is perfectly sharp from f2.8, especially on MFT or APS-c cams with tighter corners, but has the mild CA issues and wide open gentle softness of the 40mm, so it can be used with character or clean, aside from aperture limitations (more on this below).

This would give me a spread of 25-225mm across four formats (with the IRIX 150 macro), enough for anything I would need, the establishing, group or dramatic wide shot, semi wide two person, several levels of tight and compressed portrait, a true tele-macro and multiple ways of mixing these.

The only flaw in this logic is MFT performance which is half the logical justification for this lens. The 25mm on MFT becomes a handy 45-50mm focal length (depending on camera), but with the need to stop it down to T2.8 to 4 for best performance (maybe, as central performance is decent wide open), it is effectively shooting at T5.6 to 8 full frame equivalent.

If I am buying the Vespids for character not perfection, then the 25 makes sense as, to be honest, the 25 is fine wide open, just not as sharp as the Mk2, better being the enemy of good.

The reality is, my preferred aperture for full frame is T4, where the 40mm is excellent, then at T2.1 it offers a gentler, dreamy sharpness option. In MFT format, T4 is too much depth of field (about T8 FF) and a little slow, so a wider aperture that can be used confidently, like the Mk2’s T1.9 (about T4 equivalent) is better. The Mk1’s 25mm is tempting, but might be a poor saving overall.

In MFT the Hope 25 can provide very sharp and CA free images at T2.1 as well as a warmer image to balance out to cooler GH5s sensor, so I wold basically be buying a wide angle for the full frames, then have a confusing and probably unnecessary choice to make in MFT.

Without it I would not have a full frame wide angle, relying on the MFT 12 Vision, 9mm Pana, or full frame 20-60 S-series etc. I don’t use wides much for video and when I do, AF in MFT format is preferred, so this may be enough anyway (the Vision 12mm is actually really good with insane close focus).

If I assume that my G9II would be the most likely mount for a wide used in “Chivo” style* of super close and intimate, looking for perspective distortion, looking for a too-close feel, the 12mm Vision is perfect and the 9mm Leica provides it with AF. On the GH5s, it is an even stronger effect.

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If on the other hand I wanted or needed to up that base level, to better support MFT format with more usable sharp wide open speed, go a little wider, have a lens that provides the safety net of even better flare and CA performance, basically no distortion (as a full frame wide), the 24 Vespid MkII ($1700au) is the path.

The MkII’s are more modern optically, often called “mini Arles”, but can be matched to the MkI’s when the older lenses are stopped down.

The 24 is also smaller and lighter, especially compared to the slightly larger than most 25mm.

This of course has the potential to start the whole process again and to be honest, if I had to buy only one set, it would be MkII’s, but I might feel I had missed a trick without a MkI in the fold.

The third option and this is a strange one maybe, is a 28mm F1.4 Typoch Simera, non-C type ($600au), the newer one without that odd locking mechanism, which annoys me when shooting video.

There is breathing and vignetting, but they are optically excellent. I feel the role they would play is much the same as the Vespids, to be the “character” glass,

This would also require two M adapters ($2-500au) and add another mount into the mix, but it would also still be cheaper than the options above and add the same glass with more speed than a Vespid in a smaller size.

A 28mm is not wide, but at this pricing, a 21 or 18 could be added within reason, the whole lot coming in under the Vespid 24’s price.

A hand holdable 28 is very appealing and I am ok with stills lens focus pulling, which has to be balanced with my preferred handling “shape” of the stills lens over a cine lens (backwards to a cine lens).

The head is screaming the 24mm, the heart would settle on the 25, but it’s utility might be limited and my gut is saying stick with what you have. Only the wallet and my perverse sense of running against the tide says Typoch.


*Aka Emmanuel Lubezki the maker of The Revenant.


Just What I Didn't Need, More Choices!

So my friend James loaned me his pair of Typoch Simera (non-C/cinema lenses) for a play. M-Mount on an L-Mount camera, so kind of in the same family.

Lovely Novoflex mount, very tight and clean both sides, a good start. The shots of lens and camera were taken with the Hope 25 on a G9.

Something I did notice right away is my hand held preference for the focus ring at the rear so I can cradle the camera while focussing and the aperture ring well out in front, clearly visible, but out of harms reach (harm being me). This was something I really liked about Olympus OM lenses back in the day.

Cine lenses are all designed the same way and standardised, toothed aperture ring to the back, focus forward but this often makes hand held use a little cack-handed, with the focus ring well forward and the aperture ring out of sight under the camera body and easy to bump (I do it regularly over several series of lenses, so its a thing) and with mechanical lenses, you sometimes don’t realise it has shifted.

With one set of lenses, I often shift aperture instead of the focus ring as they are quite close together and feel similar.

It’s funny how sometimes we react to certain dynamics without realising until an alternative is presented. I had a tendency to go to stills lenses for run-n-gun work, because they gave me aperture feedback and required clicked aperture changes, neither of which are cine lens things. The Panasonic glass can also be electronically set to long-linear throw, which is ideal.

Both cine lenses have their aperture rings to the rear. The Vespid ring in particular is invisible to me while shooting hand held and its focus ring is well forward, which necessitates a handle on the camera for best balance. The S-prime works like a stills lens (with 270 degree linear throw), which is sometimes cleaner and better for me.

I randomly chose the 75 and used my handily arranged Autumn garden studio. Most images are shot at between f1.4 and f2, f4 for the odd deeper depth one (how I would use it for video). No notes taken and a day so forgive the generalisations.

Well, aren’t we the little gem.

Wide open, smooth and sharp.

Even nicer at f4.

The 75 instantly cemented itself with me as a stellar portrait lens.

Next the 28, the lens that to be honest, I would be seriously interested in as a cine option.

A 28 is almost the perfect all-rounder for me and hard to find elsewhere.

A full frame 28 is the widest normal lens I like, one of the reasons I went with the 28-70 Sigma, giving some width with minimal distortion. On APS-c it becomes the true normal, a 42mm, on MFT 1.8x crop it is a 50 and on MFT 2x it is close to 60mm. The M-mount is also a tight, low profile and clean adapter and not too crazily priced.

The 28 is also a bit special.

Sharp wide open even when cropped tight and I will admit, my manual focussing was a bit loose.

Same as above at f4, the perfect bland of snappy sharp and smoothly blurred.

F4 again, fast becoming my favourite full frame aperture (about the same as f1.8-2 in MFT, so no coincidence).

Wide open Bokeh, my focus missed the lock slightly. Very, very gentle looking image, light and bright with a harmonious smoothness, music to a cinematographers ears (or eyes I guess).

It looks and feels nice in this space. Trying to tell me something?

I am torn on what my next move should be.

The Vespid 40mm has been a find, a real find, finally settling my full frame video kit down with a “one lens that is two at 40 & 60mm” and matches or betters my excellent MFT Hope lenses, but where to next?

The Vespid 25mm ($1200au) would fit well and is nicely priced. I have the PL-L-mount adapter, a MFT-PL would then be a logical addition as the 25 would add several needed focal lengths (25/37+45/50). This would also fix my only problem with the S5, which only outputs B-Raw smaller than 5.9k (in C4k) in APS-c format.

The Vespid II 24mm ($1700) on the other hand is only 40% dearer and upgrades the cine lens experience to close to Arles level, so I would have, I guess, a similar lens to the 40mm with a more restrained and refined character and better corrections.

Both of these have to be looked at side by side with the 25 Hope, which for MFT does the same job, so I am actually covered here, making a good argument for sticking to a single Vespid in full frame.

The Typoch Simera-C 28mm ($1300au + $100-280 adapter = $1400-1600) did not appeal mainly because it is a different mount. A series made to be the equal of the Vespid I’s optically, with some benefits (smaller and faster) and minor short comings normal for smaller lenses and their price is actually a little dearer than their Vespid I equivalents.

A 28mm appeals on many levels, but neither of the Vespid series have one.

The Simera 28mm (non-c) are cheaper ($670au + $100-280 for the adapter = $800-950) but the same optics, and as I said above, I actually like their back to front configuration for hand held work.

Focus throw is nothing like a cine lens at 240+ degrees, the longer distances in particular are quite squished, but I have managed before with other stills lenses and these are better than most.

The aperture can be de-clicked, especially helpful when you can actually see it!

Leaning towards nothing right now (maybe a 25/24 Vespid on sale), because the 40mm did what I needed, but thanks again to James for sewing another seed.

The S5 And The Vespid 40mm, A Happy Marriage

I received the Nisi PL-L adapter yesterday, much, much quicker than I was expecting, in days rather than weeks, so my blessed run with the impulse buy of the Vespid has turned out well.

The adapter fits well, slightly loose on the S5II, but most lenses are, snug on the S5 and the Pl mount lock is tight as designed.

It is an odd looking combo, but probably no weirder than the metallic grey/green meets black/orange of a dedicated Nisi Athena lens.

The S5 in B-RAW is 5.9k so biiig files even at 8:1, 19GB eaten up in a couple of minutes of test footage, but wow, I could lift convincing stills from this.

A nice still drawn from some test footage.

Really stands up to it.

Bokeh is pleasant enough, ignorable really.

It allows the sharpness to pop.

Foreground Bokeh is also a creative tool.

This file showed some mild moire around Lucy's whiskers, nothing terrible, but there.

This was an interesting mistake. I was thinking about V-Log while processing, and accidentally applied my Log power grade base to this B-Raw file and did not realise until later. Colour looked good, it graded well and I even played with the colour a little.

Before I get too carried away, this has also come at a time when I have adopted 4-6k B-Raw as my baseline (being reviewed), so I am responding to better processes overall, but regardless, it is a good combination by any standards.

This file exhibited consistent and strong veiling flare across the frame (no hood used), consistent enough that curves could effectively remove it. In the Hope comparison I did, the Hope resisted flare better, but the flare was tougher to remove, being more aggressive and localised.

My gut tells me that the Spectrum 50 on the S5II (both in Log) would be a good match, so my B-cam could be tighter or if matched with the GH5s, the Hope 25 or 50 would also work.

I am not seeing noticeably better performance from the S5 and Vespid over the GH5s and the same lens, which is reassuring and handy. Might still get a PL-MFT adapter, but then I might get another lens and on it goes!

If I were to get another, the Vespid 25 appeals, but so does getting a 24mm in the Mk2 range (for a 24/35, 45/50 combo), just for the other way of doing things, but leaning more into the MFT kit (where the extra speed would be more practical).

This would give me, between the two lenses over multiple formats, a wide establishing lens (24), several semi-wide standards (36/40/43/48), and some short portrait lengths (60/72/80) with speed where I would use it (MFT/wide).

A Surprise Problem Solver.

In my seemingly eternal hunt for the perfect rig, a post by Mark Bone regarding the best placement and angle for a screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyNUrnVf5SU got me agreeing and ordering something (not what he recommended, but close).

I went with the Smallrig 11” rosette arm, a multi angle arm that can mount on an ARRI point, then allow articulation of a screen to almost any angle. It was bulkier than the one MB uses, but it was available to me and cheap enough to try out.

Complete now with the Nisi Pl-L mount that was given a lead time of 2-3 weeks, then turned into 2 days…… seems I am blessed with this whole process. The adapter cost about as much as I saved on the lens, so free mount I guess.

I was working on perfect angles and placement or even a useful application for the arm, trying to put this accessory to best use, but I gave up on it and was returning to rigging normally. I then remembered an idea I noticed while shopping for the arm, which was to mount it as a handle.

The screen is in the usual spot, front of a handle, but unlike the normal, it is lower and tighter and I have options.

Capable of 3kg capacity, it handles this comfortably.

From here it is no great ordeal to swing it either side, backwards or forwards. The main locking clamp first releases the two heads (the monitor drops, so be careful), then the rosette is released allowing for major angle changes.

The main advantage for a solo shooter is to have a static camera with the screen and go button as close as possible to the holding hand. This is the only combination I have out of a half dozen handles, that allows me to hit go and stop with my thumb.

Easy peasy. I actually did it automatically while testing the lens.

From here I can articulate the arm pretty much anywhere I might need, but what I have found more useful is the ability to activate and reactivate the recorder (BMVA screen) with my thumb.

I finally have a right hand actuation option, that allows my left hand to focus etc without having to leave the lens.

It’s not the most comfortable handle (nor the worst), but it is the most useful and makes the S5 and cage a good core rig for my movement/static B-rig.

From here I can put the handle sideways, angled up, put the screen anywhere within 11”, so lets say, laying on my back with the camera overhead or as a second interview camera, with the screen close enough to see and even control, or have it subject facing or really low, with the screen at knee height.

Even if I use the lowest sitting of my monitor mounts, I cannot get much lower than this and they basically just adjust screen angle.

I may even add one to my big GH5s RigidPro rig, because every other option I have tried has been too tall and bulky, severely limited my packing options. This will retain the needed low profile while adding a handle to help pack and un-pack it. One thing that has vexed me is adding a handle to get it out of the bag that is not so tall, it precludes closing the lid!

The big rig would even leave me with the option of a second handle using an existing Nato rail mount (very low profile until needed), so I could hand hold and use the screen off angle.

Ed. I have two now and they both developed a slight shift on the mount. Nothing terminal, but occasionally annoying.

Video Quality, Real Needs And Perceptions

I have been doing a lot of reading and watching lately, had some concrete ideas that have disintegrated into sand and reform, only to do it again, but within all that, I have noticed some things that, when I chose to listen, have managed to enlighten me.

Basically, I would find myself so often looking to a selected Vlogger to enlighten me as to the minor differences between camera “A” and “B”, then feel gutted that they were getting great results using techniques or gear I had previously rejected.

I started to feel like maybe my priorities were out of whack.

1)

The images I see that I like have little to do with codec, camera, or lens. They are generally contrasty, sharp and realistic, something that was the norm prior to the current regime. What I am saying here is the treatment of the footage seems to be more important than the scaffolding.

2)

Cameras and lenses can look different to each other, which makes us question what we have, try more and buy more, but they can also, more often than not, look the same. Most reviews “normalise” to the point where we are only looking at the most basic level of their output. Yes brand or camera “X” is slightly sharper looking than “Y”, but in the hands of a decent colourist, “Y” may end up looking better or at least the same with a different character. There are too many variables to know from a simple test, the core of the question is way deeper than that.

3)

You need to chase what you want and when you do, when you know what you are actually trying to achieve obsessively and with focus, gear and processing concerns fall away. You the user and maker can mould your tool to work how you need, we always have, it is where innovation comes from, but the habit of letting our tools define us is becoming dominant.

4)

Listing to that little voice that says “I am seeing a lot of this, maybe time to shift direction” or “I am sick of that flat, washed out, overly soft look, so maybe everyone else is?” or “this shallow depth of field thing may have run its race” and change your processes until you like what you do.

5)

The end product will be as good as all the elements involved, dependant on how they are used. Shoot an in camera Rec.709 profile if your skills are up to it, it’s all the same in the end. Many of the greats cut their teeth on low res codecs, which is how they learned to do everything so well.

This is a super sharp image taken with a video lens on a video hybrid camera. Why can’t modern video look snappy and life like?

6)

Read and research less, look and learn more. The grass is not always greener nor the sky bluer elsewhere and even if it is, is more always better?

Basically, fight back, change perceptions evolve and drag the rest of us with you, don’t let analysis paralysis stop you, don’t be a follower, be that person out front catching the un-breathed air.

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On a practical level, where this post started but quickly got de-railed, I am noticing that often V-Log footage looks as good as RAW, sometimes even a rec.709 codec can, each has it’s place. My desire to expand my B-Raw capabilities has been reduced after some close calls, now looking at V-Log as my norm, B-Raw as my “safety net” and personal indulgence. Two cams RAW capable is plenty.

My recent lens purchase has helped me put some things into perspective. Yes the Vespid 40mm is the best video lens I own, no doubt, but my cheaper or less specialised glass is also pretty close.

The S-Primes, Hope series and others can produce, I just need to get better at it myself. More RAW capable cameras for 3-4 cam interviews would be overkill, because in those controlled situations, even Standard mode could be enough.

Time to reduce, not expand and produce, not prepare.

Time to practice what I just preached.

A Temptation, Or A Reality Check.

I always have a shall (large?, hard to tell anymore), shopping list of “practical things I might need in the future”, which is the boring version of the “things I just want” which the Vespid was on.

One list I obsess over, the other I just collate, ready for the inevitable need to replace.

The OM System 8-25 F4 is on the list, the boring list, as it is a replacement for several lenses, the 8-18, which is fine but has been dropped twice and is a little short as an “all-rounder”, the 12-40 f2.8, still ailing from a trip to a sandy beach, a “lumpy” zoom the result and my 12-60 Leica, that has decided lately to do the “AF shuffle” every time I turn it on, even if AF and stabe are off.

All are working, all do their jobs as expected, all act as backups to the other, but the 8-25 does offer an overlap that possibly reduces the need to carry two lenses and frees up the 8-18 for video duties (or the other way around). An 8-25 and 40-150 has no noticeable gap, an 8-18 and 40-150 do, meaning I often carry a fast prime as a filler as I find 25mm (50mm equivalent) to be the perfect small group portrait lens.

The actual lens is a friends bought mint second hand and he will sell it to me “right” if I take it, otherwise he will list it.

Great performance across the frame, as expected.

Every lens has a “feel” and for me, this lens screams “get in close”, which it does really well.

Close focus is good, but this little guy was so small, it still took some cropping.

It also screams less loudly, “get it all in”.

Flare was interesting, that is to say ugly. I have just been doing stress tests on cine lenses and the only time I got anything like this was an off-angle with a huge matt box ND filter mounted.

Pleasant enough Bokeh, nothing that detracts anyway.

Just to be a little unfair to it, I threw in a Vespid shot from yesterday.

To be honest, I am blown away by this lens, the images it creates and the experience of using it. It surprises me how much it has affected me, I was gearing up for disappointment and possible regret, even returning it, but it has won me over quickly. Making a great stills lens requires a set of criteria are met, but when dealing with genuinely good cinema glass, a more wholistic approach is taken to the only thing that matters, various image qualities.

Timing is a thing. The fact is, this lens sits below the tiny 12-45 f4 on my to get list, even below the auto buy of another 40-150 f2.8 if I need to.

My other list, the one that makes me happier has the DZO Vespid Mk1 25mm on it, a lens to match the 40 as a 25/38 and 45/50 option. The Hope 25 and 50 do its job now and may for ever, but we will see.

Replacing work horse lenses is a business expense, one I am not forced to make right now.

The Vespid is a thing we do it for, a personal choice, not needed, but wanted.